Mr. Richard Harris (Cariboo—Prince George, CPC): Mr. Speaker, it is becoming very clear in this debate that there are people who are in fact security experts who prefer to deal with factual information, and there are those, particularly the member for Ajax—Pickering, who think they are security experts and facts never got in their way of telling the story.

    I think the member for Edmonton—St. Albert has clearly articulated that when we are talking about this particular issue, to be factual we should be talking about apples to apples rather than apples to oranges, and using numbers that are realistic to use a comparison.

    I would like to ask the member for Edmonton—St. Albert if he is aware of, and I just came in and I do not know if this has come up, the cost of putting on the G8, which I think was in Hokkaido recently, was somewhere in the neighbourhood of $1.5 billion, which would in fact be much more than the total cost of the two events we are putting on in Canada. Do I have that number correct?

 Mr. Richard Harris (Cariboo—Prince George, CPC): Mr. Speaker, the member is asking all of these questions: Why not do this and why not do that? She is making suggestions. I am certainly not a securities expert and neither, probably, is anyone in the House, nor the member who just spoke. However, there are some very good security experts in this country that this government takes advice from.

    We have taken the advice that the locations that have been chosen, as any location in this country, will bring some security problems that have to be addressed. They have made some estimates on what those costs would be. They have advised the government on the security measures to take to make our participants safe. They have given us all of this information. These costs are based on sound experience from experts in the security field.

    It is great to speculate about things, but when the member speculates without taking the time to get the facts, then I think she does herself a huge disservice.